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Robyn myers's avatar

Thanks for this. It's weird that men get praise for "Babysitting" their own kids. Geez. And yes Ashley totally rocks ( I would have been having an unpleasant conversation with the PD if I had encountered that woman filming ME! There may have been blood involved)

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Oleg Kagan's avatar

You and me both!

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Faith Current's avatar

I have not much to add to this specific to your actual article, not being a parent. But I do have this, if it's Of Interest....

Being someone who is by nature an iconoclast (I used to go to high school football games and cheer for the other team just on principle, it's amazing that I lived through it, given the importance of high school football in a small conservative town...), I was thinking the other day about the issue of cultural expectations, etc.

I get the appeal of a culture in which there are no roles or expectations. It sounds lovely. I think it would be unsustainable chaos and we'd all quickly resort into categories and roles again just to keep from turning into Lord of the Flies but that's not what I'm commenting on.

What I'm thinking of here is that the best art in a culture tends to come from those who rebel against it and question it. what happens to art, in a culture where there's nothing to rebel against? Where everything (or at least most things, leaving out the moral arguments) is okay, where everyone is free to be be you and me? I think art dies. Or at least any kind of art worth making and worth remembering beyond "oh that's interesting."

i think it's easy to see the downside of culture roles and your article does a beautiful job of pointing those out. No argument, they are restrictive and problematic. But I think it's also worth thinking about how everything has a benefit and a drawback, and out of the restrictions of mainstream culture, we also get great art.

Maybe it's just because I live so far outside of the norm -- no "real job," no blood family, no husband or wife or kids -- I'm somewhat immune to worrying about restrictions, but i'll take great art over just about anything anyday.

Just my two cents.... I love my friday Oleg!!!!!

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Oleg Kagan's avatar

I think there will always be expectations. The more important questions is what those societal expectations can be? Can more of them be uplifting? Will that stifle art? These are questions.

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Dan's avatar

Excellent analysis of the double standards!

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